sania, some species of bird do this, Polygynandry is just nature...i think I said this before... polygamy is also just nature... but maybe humans should actually be making some kind of example, and proving that God made us in his own image, rather than like... cats or snails or polygamous birds.
Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should, and just because the law permits it, or the Quran says its acceptable, doesnt mean it endorses it. So maybe all those who have taken multiple wives, like BB was saying, for pretend genuine reasons, who are the fooling but themselves? Maybe it is truly impossible to love two women equally, or perhaps saying justly is diffrent from equally... but that could just be in the English translation... anyway, maybe what was written was impossible for anyone to do, and a man can say that he treats them equally till he is blue in the face, does it mean he does? Even if he believes that he is treating them equally in his heart, maybe he is just being truly ignorant? God will know, and He will judge.
Sorry this was a bit heavy, but polygamy hacks me off.
Yes, animals and birds do it.
But modern man has evolved so much that he can no more be considered as an animal.
Men and women have evolved into a new kind of beings socially and intellectually,
though biologically they are animals.
They have formulated social rules which are best for their happiness and
protection under the prevailing conditions.
The process of evolution is applicable not only to physical and biological features,
but also for the social and cultural habits, mores, rules and practices.
So the answer is that you too, SK, do not believe polygamy is right or acceptable? So I am confused why you are constantly trying to defend the indefensible. Or is it right just to leave the polygamous to it, and leave God to judge.
"Sacrifice, true (that's the nature of polygamy: discouraged but permissible) but for gains also (that might outweigh that sacrifice) depending on each and every situation. Remember that the woman doesn't have to spend a penny from what she earns or that belongs to her, not for food, not for bills...nothing!"-SK
If that is all a woman is frightened of having to sacrifice, if that is all a woman cared about, then perhaps she would wholly deserve having to share her husband. But sorry to generalise, I would feel in most cases, this is not what she is scared of or cares about. Also, the first wife will have doubtlessly already shared all her belongings with her husband, she may not have to, but if you love someone, you share everything with them. And then would your arguement just be that Islam says the women doesnt have to, so its her own fault? So does it mean that no woman should ever fully give heself and everything she has to her husband for fear he eventually may get a second wife? If in times of hardship, should she keep her money to herself?
I'm afraid I'm not to into reading any other Islamic texts other than the Quran, but I doubt most Mulisms bother to study the Bible, so I don't feel too bad that I'm only sticking to the one book. If Muhammad was the last prophet, and the Quran is from God, then why look at books which were written by ordinary men? Meaning, at least the bible was written by many prophets and kings etc, people chosen by God, not to offend anyone, but surely advice from books after the Quran are only as useful as any modern theologian? Feel free to put me in my place at this point.
So the answer is that you too, SK, do not believe polygamy is right or acceptable?
If that was your conclusion then no. I agreed with your previous post in which you expressed dislike at most.
My position:
I am not interested in polygamy because it is not for me like it is not for many people, but...
It could be a solution for other people, and so it is permissible but only under certain circumstances and rigorous conditions.
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If that is all a woman is frightened of having to sacrifice, if that is all a woman cared about, then perhaps she would wholly deserve having to share her husband. But sorry to generalise, I would feel in most cases, this is not what she is scared of or cares about. Also, the first wife will have doubtlessly already shared all her belongings with her husband, she may not have to, but if you love someone, you share everything with them. And then would your arguement just be that Islam says the women doesnt have to, so its her own fault? So does it mean that no woman should ever fully give heself and everything she has to her husband for fear he eventually may get a second wife? If in times of hardship, should she keep her money to herself?
Good question. I don't know so I have to look into that. However, my understanding is that sharing does not always mean giving. In a loving relationship of course she would share. But in the case of a fallout/divorce he would owe her that share, unless she forsakes it. It depends on the level of love and trust she has for him. It's her life, she has to make these judgments. Yes it's tough but no-one knows the future.
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but I doubt most Mulisms bother to study the Bible.
I do. The question is: do most Christians bother to study the Bible?
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I'm afraid I'm not to into reading any other Islamic texts other than the Quran, but I doubt most Mulisms bother to study the Bible, so I don't feel too bad that I'm only sticking to the one book. If Muhammad was the last prophet, and the Quran is from God, then why look at books which were written by ordinary men? Meaning, at least the bible was written by many prophets and kings etc, people chosen by God, not to offend anyone, but surely advice from books after the Quran are only as useful as any modern theologian? Feel free to put me in my place at this point.
You are right. Hopefully you won't need any other text. I only suggested Tafseer in case the language was not clear for you or for extra info maybe.
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